
Early Saturday, it looked as if the Senate’s reconciliation bill would not include the Stop Harassing Owners of Rifles Today Act (SHORT) and the Hearing Protection Act (HPA), due to the Senate’s language violating the Byrd Rule.
What’s the Byrd Rule? Named for the late Senator Robert Byrd, it restricts the inclusion of provisions not directly related to budgetary or revenue matters in reconciliation legislation. The goal is to ensure a smooth, expedited passage of bills with clear fiscal impact.
Why would someone want to slip policy items in a reconciliation bill? Because it only takes a simple majority to pass rather than 60 votes.
So, by adhering to the Byrd Rule, the Senate can get important legislation through without burdening it with add-on policy initiatives that wouldn’t pass the 60-vote threshold outside of the reconciliation process.
That’s why the Senate Parliamentarian ruled that Pro 2A-backed efforts to remove short-barrel rifles, short-barrel shotguns, and suppressors from regulation under the NFA wasn’t Byrd compliant—even though both measures included language that would eliminate the $200 tax stamp requirement for purchase.
This approach—bundling deregulation under the NFA with elimination of the transfer tax was known in the gun rights community as the “no compromise” approach. Unfortunately for the various pro–Second Amendment organizations that rallied behind and pushed the no compromise plan, the Senate Parliamentarian didn’t compromise.
That didn’t sit well with those groups, which signed a joint statement condemning the removal of the SHORT Act and HPA from the Big Beautiful Bill and called for the Republican-controlled Senate to overrule the decision—or for Majority Leader John Thune to outright remove the Parliamentarian.
Their statement framed both the SHORT Act and HPA as tax, not regulatory, issues. The Senate Parliamentarian differed. So SHORT and HPA were here one day and gone the next...until.
Until Senate supporters regrouped Saturday evening and repackaged both bills with new language that eliminates the $200 transfer tax but leaves in place NFA regulation of short-barrel rifles, short-barrel shotguns, and suppressors. For those keeping score, we’ve gone from no compromise to, well, a compromise. And one that benefits consumers and manufacturers.
The Senate is now debating its final version of the Big Beautiful Bill today with a final vote expected some time today. From The Hill . . .
The hours-long voting session was expected to start overnight, but GOP leaders opted to push it until 9 a.m. after a grueling weekend, which included Democrats forcing the Senate clerks to read all 940 pages of the bill. That process took nearly 16 hours to complete, and was followed by debate on the bill itself that lasted into Monday morning before the chamber finally recessed.
“The debate and eventually voting on the ‘big, beautiful bill.’ has begun. Hallelujah. It’s taken a while for us to get there,” Senate Budget Committee Chair Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said on the floor on Sunday afternoon. “I’ve worked a long time with my colleagues to get to where we are today.”
Let’s assume this new language on SHORT and HPA remains intact and the Senate passes the bill. The next step is for the Senate and House versions—both of which include NFA tax elimination without changing NFA regulation—to go to a conference committee that will reconcile the differences between the House and Senate versions of the bill.
Once that’s complete, the final bill will be voted on by both houses again. It will then head to President Trump’s desk for signature.
That’s a roundabout way to get where many hoped we’d go and it’s less than we wanted—but it’s still a win. Sure, it’s not a blowout victory with deregulation and tax stamp elimination, but it’s a step forward.
It bears noting that this is essentially the path laid out by Joe Kurtenbach of Silencer Central in an interview Friday with Outdoor Life, after the Parliamentarian eliminated the HPA and SHORT Act.
Optimistic, Kurtenbach said . . .
There’s still a lot of game left to be played… What’s nice is the House language has already passed one body of the legislature, so [using the House version of the HPA in the Senate] might be the easiest substitution to make.
Dan Zimmerman made the same point here on Friday, emphasizing that the House version doesn’t deregulate suppressors, but does eliminate the tax burden on consumers—presumably making it a fiscal matter rather than a policy change in the eyes of the Parliamentarian, thereby satisfying the Byrd Rule.
So now we play the wait-and-see game. In the meantime, for those of you a little rusty on your Civics 101, here’s a refresher available in this short documentary and this short documentary on how the legislative process works.
UPDATE: The Senate Parliamentarian passed on the language eliminating the NFA’s of $200 transfer tax this morning, allowing it ti stay in the reconciliation bill.
This is my first time pay a quick visit at here and i am really happy to read everthing at one place
Awesome Florida *Breaking News* –
September 8 through December 31, guns, ammo and accessories will be TAX FREE in the great state of Florida.
And hunting and fishing gear, as well.
Read all about it :
https://www.zerohedge.com/military/florida-gov-desantis-announces-tax-holiday-guns
Predetermined outcome. It was never going to happen.
“The goal is to ensure a smooth, expedited passage of bills with clear fiscal impact.”
Yes, the Byrd rule ( thanks Bob!) is all part of responsible and ethical legislation practice, because we want bills with clear fiscal impact rather than some kind of catch all Bill with multiple hidden mechanisms.
“Why would someone want to slip policy items in a reconciliation bill?”
Because some Congress-people will always try to twist the mechanism of legislation to gain unfair advantage or to push through unpopular legislation.
On another subject, when is Donald Trump going to release the Epstein files?
And when you see Q, ask him when that big round up of all the evil pederasts in government will occur? Or was that just all bullshit, the only diaper sniffer is Donald Trump himself, just ask Jeffrey Epstein. Oh wait, Donald Trump‘s DOJ had custody of him and somehow Epstein ended up room Temperature, funny, that…
Ya lying again Miner49er.
And you almost had a decent post, almost. But like usual you ruined it because you just can not keep your mental illness TDS under control.
“Ya lying again”
Nope, it is a historical fact that Jeffrey Epstein was in the custody of Trump‘s DOJ at the time he assumed room temperature.
It is a fact Donald Trump‘s FBI leadership appointees initially claimed Jeffrey Epstein was murdered, but now they claim he died by his own hand, nothing to see here, and they are refusing to release the Epstein files.
And now just a few days after the last conservative nut job shot a bunch of people, we have a new conservative white supremacist assassin who killed 2 fireman because he was butt hurt aryan nations’ headquarters was intentionally burned to the ground by the fire department, he felt he should commemorate the anniversary by killing firemen from ambush, how brave of him.
Once again, learn what context means Miner49er.
That’s not what I was talking about and you know it. You can’t even stop lying to yourself
“You can’t even stop lying”
No, it is Donald Trump who is lying about his participation in Jeffrey Epstein sick circus.
And you are lying to yourself, the facts are right before you and you refuse to acknowledge the reality of Donald Trump’s sick perversions.
I think you are enamored of his perceived wealth and power.
Remember what you learned in Sunday school…
1 Timothy 6:10
10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
Like I said Miner49er, you lied and you can’t even stop lying to yourself.
2 Peter 2:1 and fuck off with your bullshit Miner. You have yet to present a cogent argument let alone a viable one.
White supremacist are not ‘conservatives’. They are nut cases.
On the other hand you Miner49er, siding with Irans desire to kill Jews…thats a Nazi thing ya got going on there Miner49er.
“On the other hand you Miner49er, siding with Iran“
Interesting claim, of course you have no evidence to support your assertion but that doesn’t stop you from spouting bullshit online.
Remember when Donald Trump claimed he was going to keep us out of these Middle Eastern wars? Just another bullshit claim by a money loving billionaire who shits on a gold toilet.
It seems you warmongers never change, you keep smacking the hornets nest and wondering why stings are up.
So we didn’t get 100% of everything we wanted in the BBB.
We also don’t get 100% of everything we want for Christmas most times either.
But, we did end up with more than we had. And also ended up with a lot of tax cuts for other stuff, and getting rid of billions of $$ of fraud , waste, abuse, DEI, and illegal aliens (i.e. the cuts to Medicade stuff is simply removing the funding that was funding all that stuff then funding at its proper level which is actually lower with all that stuff removed, that democrats had kept in there for years).
Now, just get it out of the house and on Trumps desk to sign.
“So we didn’t get 100% of everything we wanted in the BBB.“
The billionaires got exactly what they wanted, America continuing to spend itself into debt, while they get a massive tax cut. Now, you, your children and grandchildren will be paying through the nose to make sure billionaires don’t lose a penny.
So much for the Republicans claim of ‘fiscal responsibility’, it’s not the Democrats putting us into debt:
“CBO Score Shows Senate OBBBA Adds Over $3.9 Trillion to Debt
JUN 28, 2025 BUDGETS & PROJECTIONS TAXES
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) just published their “current policy” score of the Senate reconciliation bill, showing the bill would add about $500 billion less to the deficit than extending all the expiring 2017 tax cuts. Against a more appropriate current law baseline, and including interest, these numbers suggest the bill would add over $3.9 trillion to the national debt. Specifically, the bill includes roughly $4.45 trillion of net tax cuts and nearly $300 billion of gross spending increase, partially offset by nearly $1.5 trillion of gross spending cuts. We estimate the bill would increase interest costs by nearly $700 billion.“
Stop lying Miner49er, and learn what context and research and reading and comprehension is, and drop the mentally ill confirmation bias.
Vance is Mike Pence 2.0
It’s not Vance.
John Thune (Senate majority leader) is the one who can fire the Parliamentarian (and should have on Day 1, which is what the Dems did, repeatedly, with GOP-appointed parliamentarians).
That he still is refusing to cashier a Harry Reid apparatik is a sign of his spinelessness . . . and why the GOP needs a new majority leader.
“which is what the Dems did, repeatedly, with GOP-appointed parliamentarians“
Please allow me to refresh your memory concerning the actual facts of history, it was the Republican Party that set the precedent for firing the parliamentarian during budget reconciliation:
“However, Sen. Roger Marshall, R-Kan., wants immediate action taken against the parliamentarian.
“In 2001, Majority Leader Trent Lott fired the Senate parliamentarian during reconciliation,” Marshall told Fox News Digital. “It’s 2025 during reconciliation, and we need to again fire the Senate parliamentarian.”
So what exactly did “we” get? The folks in the 42 states where suppressors are legal get to save some money until the democrats use reconciliation to raise the tax or fee or whatever it is up so high no one can afford it. There is still a registry and burdensome process, and now it is divorced from the revenue structure so it can only be removed by 60 votes or litigation (see you in 5 or 10 years). And the folks in the banned states get nothing. The 2A community rallied hard, but the republican 2A supporters overpromised and underdelivered. And the spineless RINO fake 2A leadership stabbed us all in the back. Not much of a win, at the cost of a lot of blackpilled gun owners.
“Not much of a win,…”
Seriously?
NFA transfers now happen in a few short weeks, or less, and no 200-dollar tax.
That’s a massive win.
What you need to do is what MILLIONS of other Americans have done, and move to an NFA-friendly state.
Those millions of people will change the electoral vote balance to roughly 30 votes in our favor come presidential election time after 2030. That’s like a good-sized state advantage to US, not THEM…
The improved process has nothing to do with this bill. A democratic administration with a different attitude toward 2A rights can change it back to a punitive lengthy process, and raise the “tax” back up. And you still have to go through a separate application and are on a list. What they promised us was removing the registry permanently, not a temporary savings in 2A friendly states. So the 4.5 million gun owners in NY should just move, instead of expecting our elected officials to do their job and stand up for our rights? How about holding them accountable instead of making us leave our homes? They could have done it, but they chose not to. What does that tell you about their commitment to the rights of their citizens? I’m not thanking them for that.
All or nothing will inevitably give you nothing. Take what you can then regroup and continue the attack. The left got power by taking small bites over a century and you have to be prepared to do the same if you have any hope of victory. Or you can complain and keep losing.
New York city – Zohran Mamdani: The Socialist NYC Mayor Candidate Wants Your Guns ~ & More.
https://www.ammoland.com/2025/07/zohran-mamdani-socialist-nyc-mayor-candidate-wants-your-guns-more/
(note; The term ‘Democratic Socialist’ is what Zohran Mamdani calls himself, but its actually the deceptive term used for “Marxist Socialist Communist’)