DOJ, Gun Rights Orgs Press Jurisdictions Over Slow-Walking Concealed Carry Permit Applications

US Attorney General Pam Bondi
By US Department of Justice – Public Domain, Link

It is almost exactly three years ago that the United States Supreme Court ruled in the landmark case of NYSRPA v. Bruen, invalidating the “may issue” carry licensing regime in New York State and in the five other jurisdictions that continued to use subjective or extraordinary standards (“proper cause”) to prevent law-abiding citizens with ordinary self-defense needs from exercising their Second Amendment right to carry handguns publicly for self-defense.

Just days later, New York State’s Governor Kathy Hochul responded to the “reckless” decision by announcing emergency legislation that replaced the invalidated discretionary licensing standards with different, but still subjective, carry license requirements, including character references, an in-person interview of the applicant with the licensing officer/designee, and disclosure of the applicant’s “list of former and current social media accounts for the last three years.” In addition, licensing officers were authorized to “request any additional information they deem appropriate” during the licensing process, regardless of the specific legislated requirements.

In the same spirit of open defiance of the Constitution and the nation’s highest Court, government officials elsewhere have worked to stymie the implementation of the Bruen decision, treating the Second Amendment as an optional responsibility, as discretionary as the firearm permit schemes the Bruen Court put a stop to.

In California (another of the “may-issue” states), the Los Angeles Police Department has allegedly moved from “stubbornly refusing” to grant concealed carry permits to proceeding at tortoise-on-tranquilizers application processing speed.

According to the California Rifle and Pistol Association, prior to Bruen the department had issued only four active carry concealed weapons permits, despite the city’s population being close to four million people. After that rate became legally unsustainable due to the Supreme Court ruling, the “wait times for a CCW permit with LAPD have ballooned, and LAPD has gone back to not accepting applications when they are submitted so they can falsely claim faster processing times. Applicants [are] being told in emails that they can expect to wait 18-22 months” for a decision, despite California law requiring that such permits be processed within 120 days. Some applicants report that the “LAPD is ‘gaming’ this statutory deadline by putting applicants on a waiting list and not treating their application as ‘accepted’ until LAPD decides to receive it,” even though the 120-day time starts running from the date the applicant submits the application. CCW renewals, also, appear to be handled less than expeditiously.

Attorneys on behalf of the CRPA have since placed the City of Los Angeles and the LAPD on notice (here and here) that these excessive wait times are not only a violation of California law but an unequivocal violation of the Second Amendment, and that a federal civil rights lawsuit may follow “should the LAPD refuse to make firm commitments to expeditiously resolve its CCW permit application backlog.” Bruen, the lawyers observe, “was decided almost three years ago, meaning LAPD has had more than sufficient time to set up a process to handle CCW applications.” Wait times “have only gotten worse since Bruen,” implying that “the City is not devoting sufficient resources to CCW permit processing despite now having years to assess its budgetary and staffing needs to fulfill Bruen’s mandate.”

If the impediment is state law “making it impossible for LAPD to respect the Second Amendment by issuing CCW permits in a reasonable timeframe, then the cumbersome requirements of California law must make way for the Second Amendment, and not the other way around,” with the CRPA suggesting that the LAPD consider lobbying for legislative changes to make processing CCW permits less unnecessarily burdensome and time-consuming –by removing requirements like personal references and in-person interviews, for instance, or doubling the time for which a permit is valid to four years.

Michel & Assoc LAPD CCW permit letter

A CRPA blog post at the end of April suggests that patience is running thin, and “[i]f the LAPD doesn’t adopt changes quickly, a lawsuit is inevitable.”

The CRPA has already succeeded in litigation challenging the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department’s CCW permit delays. That outcome attracted the attention of U.S. Attorney General Pamela Bondi, who announced in a March 27 news release that the federal Department of Justice was launching an investigation of the sheriff’s department to determine whether it is resisting pro-Second Amendment caselaw by “engaging in a pattern or practice of depriving ordinary, law-abiding Californians of their Second Amendment rights” through excessively long processing times or otherwise.

In language that should concern the city of Los Angeles and the LAPD, the news release warns that the investigation “will be the first of many similar investigations, lawsuits, or other actions involving other localities in California, the State of California itself, and any other states or localities that insist on unduly burdening, or effectively denying, the Second Amendment rights of their ordinary, law-abiding citizens.”

In the most recent example of the new Trump administration’s commitment to actively protecting and enforcing the Second Amendment in the same way as other fundamental constitutional rights, Attorney General Bondi has fired off a letter to Pennsylvania Attorney General David Sunday and Sean P. Kilkenny, the Montgomery County Sheriff (who is also the president of the Pennsylvania Sheriffs Association), regarding reports that sheriffs are “not properly issuing carry licenses on a nondiscretionary, nondiscriminatory basis” to out-of-state residents.

In a “clear violation of Pennsylvania law, which expressly contemplates that both resident and nonresident firearm licenses will be processed on a ‘shall issue’ basis,” the letter alleges that many county sheriffs have categorically refused to issue nonresident carry licenses, a contravention with no legal justification and no statutory remedy.

Pam Bondi Pennsylvania concealed carry delay letter

As one example, the Philadelphia’s Police Department website features a pop-up notice that reads, in part, that the “Philadelphia Police Department is not issuing License to Carry to Out of State Applicants. If you submit an application, it will be withdrawn and application cost will be refunded minus Permitium Fees…” (as in the original); another webpage on carry permits, by the Philadelphia PD Gun Permit Unit, confirms “[w]e only process applications from Philadelphia residents.”

As Ms. Bondi’s letter points out, this not only disregards Pennsylvania law and the Second Amendment but, because “the categorical refusal to issue licenses specifically targets out-of-state residents, these policies are also suspect under the Privileges and Immunities Clause, which guarantees that ‘[t]he Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.’”

Although the letter requests the officials’ cooperation in resolving the situation promptly, without the need for litigation, it includes a warning that the Department of Justice “will be monitoring the situation closely.”

What happens next may depend on just how much taxpayer money intransigent government officials are willing to publicly squander to defend unconstitutional policies and practices, simply to justify their hostility to what the Second Amendment requires. It is, ultimately, a corner these bureaucrats have painted themselves into. To borrow the words of the CRPA attorneys, if the government insists on a person obtaining a permit before the constitutional right to carry may be exercised, the government cannot also complain that the unnecessarily convoluted permit process it set up is “too burdensome to process permit applications” in the statutorily-mandated timeframe or otherwise. Your NRA-ILA will keep you posted on further developments.

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15 thoughts on “DOJ, Gun Rights Orgs Press Jurisdictions Over Slow-Walking Concealed Carry Permit Applications”

  1. Just Sayin (OG)

    Talk is cheap.

    I am waiting for SCOTUS & POTUS to finally take the most meaningful action of restoring the civil rights lost to 100s of millions of Americans. Yes, I will compare my lost & hindered 2nd amendment rights with those of women’s right to vote, end of slavery, bigotry against gays & racial injustices.
    A civil right is a civil right. End of story.
    Yet here we are. With both “a right delayed is a right denied”, and utter contemptuous behavior by those that are unabashedly pompous in their willingness to subjugate free Americans in their own country.
    Those other historical civil rights took years/decades to overcome. Even though the 2A is a founding entry into our country’s constitution (& premise), we stand brow beaten and subjected to the bovine feces whims of petty tyrants spread across our great land. The irony being that those PTs could never ascend to their political ranks in an another country without kissing the ring of the ruling dictator/despot.
    We have been gamed, over & over again. The line in the sand gets more blurry yet remains clear.
    America is a Phoenix. Several times over. This journey to freedom and constitutional civil rights is interesting.
    There will come a day, and there will be debts to be paid.
    Fight the good fight.
    “All evil needs to succeed is for good men to do nothing.”

    As my friend Dick “Dude” Heller has said a million times, “Take action ! Do something. Do your part.”
    Gospel truth !!

  2. .40 cal Booger

    BREAKING: Bondi issues MASSIVE warning to wanted man now identified by the FBI (note: also warns that if the democrat politicians in California will not protect LAPD by prosecuting these left-wing enemy-combatants who attack them that federal law and Trump DOJ will prosecute under federal law).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RebeHhzh_w4

  3. .40 cal Booger

    Mexico Is Complicit In The L.A. Riots, And There Should Be Consequences.

    “The appearance of Mexican flags in the L.A. riots is exactly what it appears to be: a declaration of war by a foreign power.

    On Sunday afternoon, responding to the riots over the weekend, Sheinbaum said Mexican nationals living in the U.S. are ‘heroes’ and denounced President Trump’s attempts to enforce federal immigration law.

    https://thefederalist.com/2025/06/10/mexico-is-complicit-in-the-l-a-riots-and-there-should-be-consequences/

  4. .40 cal Booger

    Why the Person Running ‘LA Scanner,’ the Account That Was Doxing Federal Agents, Fled Into the Bunker (note: the guy who was disclosing locations of ICE raids to warn the illegal-alien criminals to flee, and doxing federal agents and endangering them and their families – this piece of scum has finally been identified…and now he is begging and crying for what he did to others to not happen to him as people are starting to show up at his home to get a piece of him.)

    “It was an infamous Twitter account: ‘LA Scanner’ was known to dox ICE agents and other federal law enforcement personnel. He claims he wasn’t calling for violence. Does this dude not understand what the intent behind doxing is? Someone has found out about him, and he’s not liking it. Also, we know who’s behind the account.

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2025/06/10/why-la-scanner-account-who-was-doxxing-federal-agents-has-fled-into-the-bunker-n2658482

  5. .40 cal Booger

    Left wing liberal ernclave cried when ICE took away 40 of their personal illegal alien cheap slave laborers (among them were MS-13 terrorist) > Beyond Parody: WaPo Is Suddenly VERY CONCERNED About Illegals Being Forced Off of Martha’s Vineyard.



    In what might be the most ironic and least self-aware article we have seen from them in quite some time, The Washington Post wants America to know that the residents of Martha’s Vineyard and Nantucket are extremely worried that deportations of illegal immigrants might impact the ‘backbone’ of the elitists’ workforce.

    Hey, we can’t blame them. Have you seen the size of the Obama estate’s lawn? It probably takes a whole team of illegals an entire week to mow that bad boy.

    A million-dollar home excavation project has been delayed because workers were too afraid to show up at the construction site. A pool at a vacation inn was closed to guests after the maintenance crew didn’t arrive. And entire businesses on this New England island have shut down.

    Life on Martha’s Vineyard and the adjacent island of Nantucket has been disrupted since officers arrested dozens of immigrants late last month, igniting fear among undocumented workers who form the backbone of the workforce here just as the busy summer season gets underway.

    The arrests hit a nerve in a liberal enclave known for welcoming everyone: presidents — former president Barack Obama has an oceanfront property here — LGBTQ+ activists, racial minorities, celebrities and a large cluster of immigrants from Brazil. People checked in on friends and warned them to stay off the roads. Residents staged a protest at the ferry docks where agents were loading up shackled migrants onto boats. One man followed the officers with a camera and heckled them.
    …”

    https://twitchy.com/grateful-calvin/2025/06/10/beyond-parody-wapo-is-suddenly-very-concerned-about-illegals-being-forced-off-of-marthas-vineyard-n2414035

  6. So, I see an article about AG Bondi going after areas stomping on the 2A, and I find 2 thoughtful comments, and literally 10 unrelated 40 cal Booger comments :

    1 – “The Biggest LIE About Gun Control Exposed!”

    2 – “So This Is How You’ll Get Your Trigger Back.”

    3 – “16 States Launch Lawfare Assault On MAJOR Gun Rights Group Retaliation For BEATING Them”

    4 – “BREAKING: Bondi issues MASSIVE warning to wanted man now identified by the FBI”

    5 – “Now that LAPD has been assured that Trump has their backs, they are finally getting a little more effective to quell this and restore law and order.”

    6 – “LAPD brought in buses to conduct MASS ARRESTS.”

    7 – “Trump sends 700 Marines to anti-ICE riots, dozens arrested amid unrest.”

    8 – “Mexico Is Complicit In The L.A. Riots, And There Should Be Consequences.”

    9 – “Why the Person Running ‘LA Scanner,’ the Account That Was Doxing Federal Agents, Fled Into the Bunker”

    10 – “Beyond Parody: WaPo Is Suddenly VERY CONCERNED About Illegals Being Forced Off of Martha’s Vineyard.”

    Start your own damn news blog, booger.

    Hey, Dan, the old place used to have an “End of the day wrap-up” open thread kinda post (The Daily Digest), how about requiring spammers like 40 cal booger get put there?

    This blog is being invaded by a spammer. Here and there is one thing, SNW is being invaded, and quite frankly it’s ruining the place…

    1. .40 cal Booger

      Or….maybe being able to post multiple links in a single post.

      And im not spamming anything. Articles here go for days without comments, some never receive any. And I either post about things related to 2A/guns or along the lines of already published articles for ‘events’ that were posted here at SNW, or relative to the broader aspect of why we need to be armed, or along the lines of others comments. That’s not spam or spamming.

      If I could post multiple links in one post then there would be less posts.

  7. It seems the ‘powers that be’ don’t care enough about the people they serve especially considering that their lack of action/inaction does not affect them personally. A fire across town is just a fire unless it is your house.

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