What we have here is a complicated defensive gun use. It seems a 14-year-old pulled a gun during a domestic disturbance in Chicago. According to CWB Chicago, “CPD said a man and a woman, both 33, were engaged in a domestic inside a home in the 4800 block of South Drexel when the man armed himself with a knife around 11:02 p.m.”
When the attacker picked up a knife and threatened the woman — probably the kid’s mother — that’s when he went for a gun.
Upon seeing the knife, the boy “produced a handgun and fired” at the man, according to a police statement. The man suffered a gunshot wound that entered his shoulder and exited near his armpit, leaving him in critical condition.
This defensive gun use, which, from the very brief description in the report, sounds justified, presents a number of issues given Illinois’ overbearing gun laws. First, it’s illegal for a 14-year-old to own a firearm. The report says he “produced” it. Was he carrying? Was it his? Was it just “available” to him in the home? Enquiring minds want to know.
But wait. Illinois has a “safe storage” law. It mandates that firearms be secured in locked containers or disabled via a trigger or cable lock. Under the law . . .
…it is unlawful for any person to store or leave, within premises under his or her control, a firearm if the person knows or has reason to believe that a minor under the age of 14 years who does not have a Firearm Owners Identification Card is likely to gain access to the firearm without the lawful permission of the minor’s parent
The kid was reportedly 14, so if he was the only minor in the house, there was no requirement that the gun be locked away. And that’s a good thing, because if it had been, this story would probably been about a homicide or two.
And then there’s the issue of Illinois’ FOID card mandate. Given his age, the kid couldn’t have had one…unless a parent sponsored one for him. We’d lay odds he doesn’t have one. Then again, after a 2017 court ruling, Illinois residents don’t have to have a FOID card for guns in their homes.
So this seems to be a case of a justified defensive gun use and at least one life saved…because one — and maybe more — of Illinois’ web of gun control laws were ignored. Or maybe not. Either way, we’re good with that.
It sounds like the kid acted to save a life, his moms life and his own. The anti-gun would have preferred the mom and the kid became dead victims.
But, still some unanswered stuff here but absent true intentional criminality lets wait and see if Illinois tries to turn the kid into a felon and ruin his life for saving his moms life and his own.
It will come as no surprise, if the mom and the 14 year old kid are not charged. Insurance agents have been known to twist things to favor their company; but, they pale in comparison to the anti gun folk. Consider the times we have read where a shooting was justified and the author adds, “the shooter had a permit to carry” which is as if they are saying by not stating that if the shooter did not have a carry permit that the shooter would be charged for defending himself and others. The antis want everyone to obey the unconstitutional laws and ignore God given rights in an effort to propagate their views. The antis don’t care that lives are lost as long as laws are obeyed. But, don’t stop the bad guy with a gun unless you have a permit and hope you are not in a gun free zone or someone’s house who doesn’t want anyone with or without a permit on their property. Some are so feeble that even if their life was saved by someone they deemed unqualified, they would still press charges against the very person who saved their life. This is the lowest of lows to express such a lack of gratitude for a person who saved your life.
Any legislation that infringes on enumerated right are unathorative, void, and of no force. They are not laws at all, and therefore can, morally, be ignored. If you asked Martin Luther King Jr. he would go even further and say one has a moral RESPONSIBILITY to disobey them.
You have to be a shade tree attorney to navigate the insane amount of varying laws. And then it’s still open to interpretation. Your best bet is to pretend to be an illegal immigrant or hardcore Democrat activist to get the most amount of leniency.
Haz, if you’re reading this, I just made a simple two sentence comment, and it disappeared. I didn’t save it or copy it because it seemed fine. It isn’t being held for moderation. The page refreshed, and the comment disappeared.
Dan, what happened to being held for moderation? Did you ditch that? This is super frustrating. Many people have given up on TTAG due to the commenting system in place there. Go check it. It’s a ghost town.
I’m done with TTAG after more than a decade. Not sure about SNW either, now that this site’s comment section is as bad.
Tired of ttag bs
Thought snw was better but now I’m not so sure.
Just posted over there now here see which comes up first.
3 hours and still my comment isn’t posted.
Ttag was actually quicker!
Both sites now suck.
I’ll just stick to ammoland
At least their news is fresh not a week old.
That went right up.
Where did the earlier one go?
“A man who saves his country violates no law.”
And it was soooo terrible that president trump said this???
And how many people from history have violated pro slavery laws???
Inorder to free slaves.
How many refused the draft and went to prison instead???
Two centuries ago, black people would steal guns. Because it was against the law for them to buy one legally.
I’m getting what I voted for.