
[O]ur final useful data comes from Milani et al v. New York City (PDF), a federal lawsuit from a group of New York gun owners arguing that NYC’s permitting process remains unconstitutionally burdensome.
New York law requires applications to be either approved (with permit issued) or disapproved within six months of a complete application being filed. The lawsuit details how NYC gets around that:
- Submit your application, wait months for a fingerprinting appointment.
- When you get your fingerprinting appointment, you’re also sent a list of extra application requirements that the NYPD doesn’t disclose at the beginning of the process. Specifically that is your Social Security card, lifetime DMV abstract, character reference letters, and a questionnaire. This allows them to say that you still haven’t completed your application, months after you sent it in.
- After your fingerprinting appointment, wait months for an investigator (read: a paperwork processor) to be assigned to your application.
- After they are assigned, wait months for them to verify that you’ve submitted all the required documents. They will then approve your application.
- But you’re not done. After approval, they send you a Notice of Application Approval. The law used to say that that would be sent via email. Instead, the NYPD ignored the law and took 6-8 weeks to send it via physical mail. After pushback, they did the sensible thing and … had the law changed to allow them to continue mailing the notices via USPS.
- With your Notice of Application Approval in hand, you can arrange with an FFL to buy a handgun. But you can’t yet take it home. You have to register it with the NYPD (by sending them photos of the gun and its make/model/serial number details, as well as photos of the interior and exterior of your home safe), whereupon they will print your physical license card, write the make and model of your gun on it, and mail the license to your house. That takes another couple months. There are farcical examples of the NYPD writing the wrong model on people’s license and then taking months to correct the problem, with the gun waiting at the FFL all the while.
- Upon receiving the license, you can take the gun home from the FFL. That requires a second NICS check, because the NYPD also required a NICS check back at the time of registration, and NICS checks are only good for 30 days. It’s the norm for more than 30 days to elapse between when a buyer registers their handgun and when the NYPD gets around to issuing the license to take it home.
The lawsuit argues that in violation of both New York law the Second Amendment, wait times for handgun permits (even basic possession permits, let alone carry permits) are commonly 1-2 years. Even NYC’s long gun permits, which are a simpler process (albeit far more complicated than those of any other US jurisdiction), almost always take an illegally long time to be issued. From page 48 of the lawsuit:
Despite the City’s statutory mandate to issue Rifle/Shotgun Permits to approved applicants within 30 days from the date the application was submitted, or at the very least, within 60 days, of the countless approved applications for Rifle/Shotgun Permits which are known to Plaintiffs, just two of those permits were issued within three-and-a-half months, and another permit was issued within approximately four months. The rest were not issued until five, six, or even 12 or more months after the applications were first submitted.
After all that, it’s natural that the NYPD has stopped releasing statistics on permit approvals. The data would be devastating for their defense in the lawsuits they’re facing.
— Open Source Defense in What’s going on with gun carry in NYC?


NY is just one example of the Ma- rx-ist Soci-a-lists war on the United States and the constitution. Its just one of other states, Illinois, California, etc…
Massachusetts Declares War On 2A & Claims Immunity In Lawsuit Challenging New Laws.
Massachusetts has filed its official answer in Hanlon v. Campbell — the landmark lawsuit brought by GOAL, the NRA, and several licensed gun owners challenging the state’s unconstitutional firearm bans. Attorney General Andrea Campbell denies everything, even claiming AR-15s aren’t “in common use.” This is the state’s full-blown declaration of war on your Second Amendment rights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0COWTKGx3zw
[there is going to come a time when law abiding people have had enough and start simply refusing to follow these unconstitutional anti-2A laws and ‘rules’ and ‘policy’, they think that can ‘law’ us into giving up our 2A rights or complying with their ‘permission’ to exercise our 2A right. These anti-2A state governments think their laws are supreme, they are not. They forget the constitutional supremacy of the people. Where as the states laws are ‘presumptive constitutional’ once created, or ruled ‘constitutional’ or ‘unconstitutional’ by courts if challenged, these are constructs of government where as the rights of the people are and were always actually constitutional organically and naturally and we are born with them and they are inherent and we can not be separated from them. And sure, there is a need for ‘good order’ in society thus laws but when those laws start to rip away or deny or infringe what is an inherent part of the people, ours and not the ‘governments’, our rights, it time for the people to start saying ‘No, we are not going to comply and we will exercise our Second Amendment right.’]
[note: the ‘-‘ in words are intentional to avoid the weird ghost post thing here at SNW]
Trans crazy happened again – the general concept for the multi-thousand’ith time overall since 2023, and worse than this too: Man Used Gym’s Trans-Friendly Locker Room Policies to Secretly Film Women.
“The Left has spent years telling women two contradictory things: 1) all men are rapists, so trust your gut instincts and avoid them at all costs, and 2) you must let men who say they’re women into your locker rooms, lest we label you a bigot.
Those same Leftists insist that men would never abuse their laissez-faire locker room policies, and that only ‘trans women’ would access private spaces, because they’re really women. Now we have a case file of men cosplaying as women who have used these lax policies to abuse women.
…”
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/amy-curtis/2025/10/30/maryland-gym-peeping-tom-n2665693
More far left wing violence: BREAKING – FBI thwarts Halloween terror attack in Michigan.
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FBI Director Kash Patel announced on Friday that the Bureau has thwarted a potential terror attack in Michigan over Halloween weekend.
‘This morning the FBI thwarted a potential terrorist attack and arrested multiple subjects in Michigan who were … plotting a violent attack over Halloween weekend,’
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https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-fbi-thwarts-halloween-terror-attack-in-michigan?utm_campaign=64470
Note: “…announced on Friday” meaning this morning – Friday 31 Oct 2025.
When the started the FID for rifles and shotguns in 1968 it supposedly was going to be needed to buy ammo so you had to list everything you owned and caliber because the caliber was going to be listed on the ID. Surprise Surprise nothing was listed on the permit. You had to be fingerprinted but the entire process only took 6 months, the FBI check took most of that time and then it was a small cardboard wallet sized type of card good for 3 years and only cost $30.
3 years later they raised the fee to $50. When I left NYC in 1988 it was till only $50 and the renewal only took 30 days.
It’s federal law.
What if New York law tried to restrict freedom of speech? How would local politicos try to excuse abrogating the First Amendment?!
democrats don’t care
They already have
NYPD and City Hall are abusively piling up multiple infringements here. I’d wager most NYPD and those they bless with permission to carry aren’t required to be anywhere near as meticulous with their firearm storage as the unreasonable demands they are making upon the non-connected.
Problem is, it costs the city nothing. The tax payers foot both sides of the legal bills until judges start ruling fines and punitive damages against official NYPD and city gov’t for these gross violations.
I guess it’s o.k. for NYC to screw its’ people. I would think if they actually wanted to do something about it, they would. I have cousins in NY state who whine about not being able to have handguns yet never even consider saying anything to their elected officials.
New York City is a communist shithole. I hope they get their communist mayor Mamdani, he can’t be any worse than what they’ve had for the past several decades.
New York has effectively seceded from the Union, it needs to be invaded by soldiers from Alabama and Texas and have all its police and politicians arrested.