
The lawsuit [resulting from the Highland Park parade shooting] against manufacturer S&W, the distributor, and the retailer that sold the rifle is exactly the kind of case PLCAA was enacted to prevent. The [Kelly Roberts v. Smith and Wesson Brands] plaintiffs alleged that S&W advertisements intentionally promote militaristic misuse of firearms, especially among young people. (Of course they don’t.) S&W responded that “the claimed harm is the aggregate result of numerous intervening (including criminal) acts by third parties not under Smith & Wesson’s control,” and that “Plaintiffs fail to allege, as they must, that they even saw the Smith & Wesson advertisements they complain of, let alone that they were deceived by them.”
The plaintiffs responded that inferences could be made that Crimo saw and was influenced by the ads because he played shooter video games and S&W ads somehow mimic such games. Judge Ortiz agreed that the inferences sufficed to show knowing violation of an Illinois law against engaging in deceptive and unfair practices, specifically by “promot[ing] a firearm-related product that encourages unlawful paramilitary activity.” He held that “Plaintiffs have alleged sufficient facts to conclude that Smith and Wesson’s marketing strategies of targeting younger demographics and promoting unlawful military type assaults created a foreseeable risk of injury to Plaintiffs.”
“Factual causation,” the court ruled, was established by “numerous allegations of unlawful marketing techniques and statutory authority that Smith and Wesson marketing and advertisements violated.” “Legal cause” sufficed that “Smith and Wesson’s unlawful conduct created a condition that foreseeably led to the shooter’s criminal act.” With conclusions like that, the proximate-cause requirement may as well be erased from PLCAA.
It goes without saying that it is sheer lunacy to claim that S&W ads encourage “unlawful paramilitary activity” and promote “military type assaults.” But the purpose of such lawsuits, orchestrated by Everytown for Gun Safety, is to destroy America’s lawful firearm industry. Making a mockery of PLCAA, not to mention the Second Amendment, is the game that’s being played.
That’s all the more reason for the Supreme Court definitively to resolve the proximate-cause issue in Smith & Wesson Brands v. Estados Unidos Mexicanos.
— Stephen Halbrook in Second Amendment Roundup: Supreme Court Should Resolve Proximate Cause in S&W v. Mexico
I think we should sue the ones who created the Highland Park parade, the ones who organized-planned-advertised-and promoted the parade should be sued. They had to foresee this tragic happening, right? After all, It is a known scientifically and demographically and historically proven fact that the more people who gather in a crowd the more chances of ‘injury’ increases. The risks associated with large crowds of people include the spread of infectious diseases, increased risk of violence, increased risk of criminal acts and crime, and the potential for stampedes. The mentally ill killer was attracted to the parade because of the advertisement and promotion of the parade. So using the plaintiff logic here the ones who organized-planned-advertised-and promoted the Highland Park parade are the ‘Proximate Cause’ of the tragic and horrible mentally ill killers actions and should be sued.
“I think we should sue the ones who created the Highland Park parade, the ones who organized-planned-advertised-and promoted the parade should be sued. They had to foresee this tragic happening, right?”
If guns are the cause of too much death, it logically-follows that the alcohol companies are responsible for drunk driving deaths.
Yet there’s no one calling for the total banning of Budweiser or Jack Daniels…
Well, its been actually scientifically (in the context of statistics and social sciences) shown that guns possessed by law abiding people, and gun manufacturers, ARE NOT a leading cause or cause of anything. Its people who do nefarious/bad things.
During the Biden-Harris admin – use of ‘Budweiser’ or ‘Jack Daniels’ (i.e. as ‘proxy’ examples of alcohol use’): According to the CDC – Annually, approximately 178,000 individual deaths (as of 2024 – up from previously year period beginning in 2021) in the United States are directly attributed (not counting indirect deaths i.e. drunk driving accidents) to excessive alcohol use, making it a leading preventable cause of death. Alcohol deaths increased during the Biden admin.
For violent crime – using a combination of sources aggregated … National Crime Victimization Survey, FBI data, ICE data, NAGIA, NAMI, states databases, Human Rights Campaign data, etc… :
During the Biden-Harris admin: More than 13,000 illegal aliens, who entered the country illegally via the intentionally open and insecure border of the Biden-Harris admin, were convicted of murder. This was, roughly, a ~1,300% increase over pre-Biden-Harrs admin periods. There was also a ~1,600% increase in assault and domestic violence crimes, committed by illegal aliens who entered the country illegally via the intentionally open and insecure border of the Biden-Harris admin. Overall, illegal alien perpetrator violent crime (all categories i.e. robbery, sexual assault, child-predators, human trafficking, murder, assault, etc…) increased by more than ~3,000%
During the Biden-Harris admin: Violent crimes (overall – all categories) committed by diagnosed mentally ill people increased by more than ~2,000% over previous periods. Additionally … gang related violent crime increased by more than ~1,400%, LGBTQ-on-LGBTQ violent crime increased by more than 700%, LGBTQ-on-non-LGBTQ violent crime increased by more than 500%, left-wing ‘political’ violence (i.e. violent crimes/acts committed for claimed ‘political motivations – includes race based hate crime) increased by more than 1,200%.
Seems to me Biden-Harris was a ‘Proximate’ and ‘Direct’ cause of a lot of violence and death.
correction for: “More than 13,000 illegal aliens, who entered the country illegally via the intentionally open and insecure border of the Biden-Harris admin, were convicted of murder. This was, roughly, a ~1,300% increase over pre-Biden-Harrs admin periods.”
should have been…
More than 13,000 illegal aliens, who entered the country illegally via the intentionally open and insecure border of the Biden-Harris admin, committed and were convicted of murder. This was, roughly, a ~1,300% increase over pre-Biden-Harrs admin period.
Cause and effect are only an issue because Kant established it as a priori. Hume dispensed with it altogether.
RussiaGate Documents RELEASED!
Bombshell Russiagate documents reveal paid FBI informants pushed fake intel to sabotage Trump — and the truth is worse than anyone imagined.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKPWu93T4iE
Those zany brits are just all sorts of eaten up with woke: ‘Speak English’ Now Hate Speech in England Even If Hearing Impaired.
https://x.com/TPointUK/status/1911322052293775608
‘How DID Joe Biden Get So Rich?!’ Biden Family Bank Records Subpoenaed and WOW That’s a LOTTA Dirty Money.
https://twitchy.com/samj/2025/04/13/biden-family-records-hooboy-n2411331
can you get my comment reply to ‘Geoff’ out of moderation please
Sorry, Dan but even you still don’t get it. It doesn’t matter what the Supreme Court decides because Anti 2A liberal progressive democrats will never abide by any ruling made as has been proven by how they have refused to in the past. Nothing will stop them beyond the elimination of the ideology from the country. Just like it was necessary to eliminate Fascism from Germany in the 1940s to make it a government of Constitutional laws, so it will be necessary to return the United States to a nation where Constitutional laws matter over ideology.