
According to ye olde English verbiage, your home is your castle. And yes, I’m talking about the Castle Doctrine, something we’re all at least passingly familiar with. Some four hundred years ago, an English jurist made the written statement that “the house of every one is to him his Castle and Fortress as well for defence against injury and violence, as for his repose” (spelling is his because, well, British). He said it, you read it, and there’s some version of it codified into law in every state.
Game on, right? Wrong…which is what some guy in Indiana recently discovered . . .
Authorities are considering whether to charge an Indiana homeowner who they say shot and killed a woman working as a house cleaner after she mistakenly went to the wrong address.
Police officers found 32-year-old Maria Florinda Rios Perez dead just before 7 a.m. Wednesday on the front porch of the home in Whitestown, an Indianapolis suburb of about 10,000 people, according to a police news release. She was part of a cleaning crew that had gone to the wrong address, the release said.
The homeowner apparently believed themselves to be in danger and acted accordingly. Apparently. But there’s more—there’s always more . . .
[The homeowner Curt] Andersen shot her through the front door with no warning about a minute after hearing someone trying to unlock the door, according to a probable cause statement.

So he heard someone trying to get in and opened fire. Through the door. Without a verbal warning.
Unsurprisingly, Andersen’s been charged with voluntary manslaughter. He’s retained an attorney, Guy Relford, who specializes in Second Amendment cases and even hosts a weekly talk show called The Gun Guy.
Relford is also a firearms instructor and a quick bio check shows he’s an NRA-certified firearms instructor and range safety officer. To summarize, Relford’s public statement regarding this case is that he believes Andersen’s actions are being unfairly judged (check out the post on his Facebook page below) . . .

We’re going to hit the brakes here and remind everyone that no one here is an attorney. I am not an attorney, this is not legal advice, and what I’m about to write is based on the sparse details the mainstream media have thrown out there so far. You’re still welcome to fight me in the comments as always.

Media reports say Andersen opened fire with a GLOCK 48 and shot through his front door. As for the housecleaner on the other side, some news reports are fast to report the victim as being a 4’11” woman. However, she wasn’t alone, she was with her husband. Her husband stated they believed they were cleaning a model home. It appears the incident took place at around 7:00am.
From here on out, we’re going to discuss this as a case of someone taking a shot through a locked front door, acknowledging there could be mitigating factors in this specific case that we don’t know about (aliens? I don’t know).
For this to be considered a good shoot, certain key legal standards must be met. We don’t have the time to lay out every facet of AOJ—ability, opportunity, and jeopardy—so I’m going to do this crayons-and-construction-paper style. All three parts of AOJ must be met, meaning the supposed attacker must have the ability to cause grievous bodily harm (with or without a weapon) and the opportunity to follow through with that (for example, being close enough to present an immediate, credible threat). As for jeopardy, that’s the measure of whether a reasonable person would believe the potential attacker displayed manifest intent to do the defender harm. Basically, your bad guy needs to have the knife (or the unarmed ability due to something like disparity of force), be close enough to use it to kill you, and display the intent to do you harm.
Here’s what the AP reports the probable cause statement says . . .
…Andersen told investigators that he and his wife were asleep in an upstairs bedroom when he heard a “commotion at the door” that grew more intense. He thought someone was using keys or tools on the front door.
Frightened, he went to the top of the stairwell and saw through the home’s windows that two people were outside the front door. He said to himself, “What am I going to do? It’s not going away and I have to do something now.”
He said he loaded his handgun, went back to the windows and saw the people “thrusting” at the door and getting more aggressive, according to the statement.
He fired one shot toward the door. He said the door never opened and he didn’t announce himself or say anything before he pulled the trigger.
Side note: Andersen’s wife ran her mouth as well, and it’s not going to help him at all . . .
Andersen’s wife, Yoshie Andersen, told investigators that her husband told her that he told a neighbor if anyone tried to break into his house he would shoot them. The probable cause statement does not say when this conversation happened.
Come on, guys. Don’t make me remind you about running your mouth in real life or on social media. And please, make sure your spouse also understands not to talk to the media or police without an attorney because…wow.

Is shooting through the front door covered by AOJ standard? As the circumstances are being reported by the media, the answer certainly seems to be no. The door was locked, the housecleaners were trying to unlock it using a key for a model home that wouldn’t work, and the homeowner and his wife had retreated to a “safe room” within the house while calling 911.
Is it possible there are additional circumstances none of us know about here? Of course, but the issue at hand here is shooting through a locked door.
The totality of the circumstances come into play, and that only applies to the things the homeowner knew at that time. Presumably he didn’t know they were housecleaners (no idea where their vehicle was parked or how it was marked). He only knew two individuals were at his front door trying to get in and depending on precisely how close to 7:ooam it was, it may have still been fairly dark.
He chose to shoot through the door.
We all remember that one time Joe Biden advised people to get a shotgun and shoot through their doors. The reaction among knowledgeable gun owners was to laugh, but there were still some who felt this was a reasonable and proportionate response to a perceived threat.
The “logic” behind it is that your home is your castle and, in Indiana, where this occurred, there’s no duty to retreat. That means the homeowner wasn’t legally required to leave the area, but was instead legally allowed to use force to protect himself and his wife, assuming there was an immediate, credible threat…which brings us back to AOJ.
Back to that locked door.
Don’t shoot through doors, people. The circumstances in which that’s a legally justified action carried out by a reasonable, prudent person are incredibly narrow.
I’m going to say it again for the guys in the back who’re busy polishing the Punisher logos on their GLOCKs: do not shoot through doors. I don’t care what you saw in a John Wick movie, what incarnation of John Wayne you believe you are, or what your concealed carry permit instructor told you. We don’t shoot through locked doors.
If you go off half-cocked and do something as questionable as shooting and killing someone through the locked front door of your house, expect to see your actions questioned here (and elsewhere)
Fear is a powerful thing and it has a tendency to overpower logic. It’s vitally important to understand the totality of the circumstances here and that they include a locked door (with no one smashing their way through). It’s also critically important that you properly identify the target (porch lights, cameras). These situations usually happen fast, and you’re going to be forced to choose your actions in a matter of seconds. Are those actions reasonable? Are they defensible? Are they logical at all?
Do me a favor and don’t shoot through doors unless you’re Frankenstein’s monster and the mob outside has Molotov cocktails. Make good choices, boys and girls, or you’re going to find yourself wearing fluorescent orange and going bankrupt over legal fees.


Doesn’t seem likely that the castle doctrine will apply under the circumstances presented in this article.
“Doesn’t seem likely that the castle doctrine will apply under the circumstances presented in this article.”
Correct, I predict he will be convicted, and rightly so, sad to say…
Do your children (if you have any) also have foul mouths?
It moat or moat not ..
Biden never said to shoot through the door but to empty both barrels into the air(stupid statement by Biden)
Actually, Biden did say shhot through the door…
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[if] you want to keep someone away from your house, just fire the shotgun through the door.
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Earlier this month, Biden told an interviewer that he had advised his wife, Jill, ‘if there’s ever a problem, just walk out on the balcony here, walk out and put that double-barrel shotgun and fire two blasts outside the house.’
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https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/02/28/biden-advises-shooting-shotgun-through-door
Booger’s right. I made that same mistake, and I was flabbergasted that Biden actually DID tell people to shoot through the door. He said both things; one time he said to shoot through the door and another time he said fire shotgun blasts in the air.
He said “two blasts outside the house.” He didn’t say into the air.
In my state, that would be murder. Inside the house would be self defense — technically, justifiable homicide. Shooting through the door — absolutely not.
“He didn’t say into the air.”
In exact wording, yes you are correct. But in reality “just walk out on the balcony here, walk out and put that double-barrel shotgun and fire two blasts outside the house” is basically saying ‘into the air’ too because where else would “two blasts outside the house” fired from the balcony go.
I need to correct myself. Shooting through interior doors is generally justifiable. I got sucked in on the front-door aspect of the discussion.
And don’t forget…due to SCOTUS ruling, you can not just remain silent or say you will not answer questions ’cause if you do the police and prosecutor can assume or infer guilt. You must specifically state that you invoke your 5th amendment right to remain silent AND to legal counsel (an attorney).
So it’s, you belive in good faith, a valid use of force for defense…then its. ..
“I will be happy to cooperate but first I must speak with my attorney and I invoke my 5th amendment right to remain silent and to legal counsel’
I’m not a lawyer, this is what I have learned from my own attorneys in my own defense incidents.
Another time to be silent is when talking to others such as a neighbor. Things said as Andersen’s wife stated can come back to harm your case even if the words spoken were in jest. The court only hears the words spoken and mood, intent is subjective. No matter how one feels, somethings are best unsaid. Diarrhea of the mouth can do a lot of harm.
Many (most? nearly all?) people are afflicted with the same problem that the great Louisiana Senator Kennedy has:
“I have the right to remain silent, but I do not have the ability.”
Gun-Grabber Politician’s Office ROBBED! Isn’t It Ironic?!
“Democratic Illinois Senate President Don Harmon’s office was robbed at knifepoint, despite his long push for criminal-justice reforms. We’ll unpack what happened, why it matters for public safety and the Second Amendment, and how you — as a gun-owner and defender of liberty — should respond.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_bsGxAYaVw
BREAKING SCOTUS NEWS JUST NOW! MAJOR CHANGES IN 2A “VAMPIRE RULE CASE”! [SCOTUS granted cert]
“The Supreme Court just received a major 2A brief in Wolford v. Hawaii challenging the state’s extreme ‘no-carry-by-default’ gun law that effectively bans concealed carry in nearly all public-facing businesses. Mark Smith, Four Boxes Diner, breaks down why this filing signals a likely major win for the Second Amendment.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c1qAJC86Mg
Depending on the specifics of Indiana law, his attorney will likely:
– Move to exclude potential jurors, for bias, who have read this particular Monday Morning Quarterback exercise.
– Move to exclude evidence about the decedent and her husband’s allegedly innocent, but wrong, intentions. He will strive to put the jury in the homeowner’s shoes, not the decedent’s.
– Move to prohibit the wife from testifying at trial under the spousal privilege doctrine, where a spouse cannot be forced to testify against the other.
The author’s not a lawyer? No kidding!
If This is ‘Academic Rigor’ on Stand Your Ground, Academia is Screwed.
https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2025/11/18/if-this-is-academic-rigor-on-stand-your-ground-academia-is-screwed-n1230645
Gun Control Organizations in Panic Over National Constitutional Concealed Carry.
“The Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act has ignited a fierce battle in Congress, drawing sharp opposition from gun control organizations who warn that the legislation threatens public safety, while supporters argue it protects the rights of lawful gun owners.
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The bill has attracted substantial Republican support, with 189 House co-sponsors as of November 2025. The House Judiciary Committee advanced the measure along party lines in March, voting 18 to 9, bringing it closer to a potential floor vote.
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https://www.ammoland.com/2025/11/gun-control-organizations-in-panic-over-national-constitutional-concealed-carry/
Do me a favor and don’t shoot through doors unless you’re Frankenstein’s monster and the mob outside has Molotov cocktails.
I strongly disagree. Let’s say I live off the beaten path (people don’t accidentally show up at my house). Let’s say there’s a guy out there with a known violent past (think: not legally allowed to buy a gun from an FFL). Let’s say he told me on the phone he was going to kill me and my children. This may or may not have actually happened to me. Let’s say he’s banging on my door, trying to get in. I know it’s him. You’re acting like a locked door is some kind of strong barrier. I’ve personally kicked in a modern front door. It took one try; it was a piece of cake. You’re wrong. I’m taking the shot through the door.
Your self-referential hypothetical and analogy-free scenario only resembles the events in this real-life story in that both contemplate shooting a gun through a door. You could’ve just as easily, and more interestingly, cooked up something in which you’re a French Resistance fighter awakened by and then shooting German soldiers through your front door as they start to kick it down, which is also almost exactly like a cleaning guy and his wife having come to the wrong house.
Your self-referential hypothetical and analogy-free scenario only resembles the events in this real-life story in that…
Why does my comment have to resemble the events in this story? I was responding to a specific quote. Did you not notice? The author’s tone throughout this article suggests that you should basically NEVER shoot through a door. I presented a very realistic scenario to counter this argument. (I actually received that threat from a known violent person, and I do live off the beaten path.)
I would say the author covered your scenario right here:
“Don’t shoot through doors, people. The circumstances in which that’s a legally justified action carried out by a reasonable, prudent person are incredibly narrow.”
What you are describing is not remotely the norm – you know who it is, and they have made specific threats against you. This is about as common as Frankenstein and the mob with molotovs.
“What you are describing is not remotely the norm…”
It isn’t remotely the norm for a known violent person to make good on a violent threat? Is that what you’re saying? I strongly disagree.
“It isn’t remotely the norm for a known violent person to make good on a violent threat?”
That violent people do violent things? Sure!
That the person banging on your door is someone you know and they called you in advance to tell you they were going to come do violence to you? No, that is not remotely the norm, for so many reasons.
No, that is not remotely the norm, for so many reasons.
I won’t list all of the links because more than one link makes the comment go to moderation. You can find these links by copying and pasting the quotes. (I will post only one link to make it past the moderation gremlins.)
From the FBI
Research has found that mass shooters don’t just snap.
They spend time thinking about violence and they plan, prepare, and often share indicators before their attacks. This means there are opportunities to identify someone who is on a pathway to violence – and prevent their attack.
Lankford & Madfis
“Do Violent Mass Murderers ‘Plan’ Their Attacks?” (2018, Behavioral Sciences & the Law) — case analyses showing many attackers engage in planning and leave communications (threats, manifestos, videos) before events; authors report high rates of pre-attack communications in their sample (varies by study/sample).
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/10990798
Silver & Simons (FBI BAU)
“Making Prevention a Reality: Identifying, Assessing, and Managing the Threat of Targeted Violence” (U.S. Secret Service / FBI synthesis) — synthesis finding: in most targeted violence cases, others observed concerning behaviors beforehand; many subjects made direct or indirect threats.
Cornell & Sheras; Fein et al.
Studies of workplace and school violence (various empirical reviews) — multi-study reviews find roughly 60–80% of attackers display warning behaviors (threats, leakage, planning indicators) observable to others prior to the act. Example synthesis: Cornell et al., studies on “leakage” in school shootings.
Some things that are “not remotely the norm”: Being struck by lightning, surviving a plane crash, getting an unexpected large inheritance from a distant relative, etc.
Comment awaiting moderation which will mean never on this old post. I’ll try to break it up in multiple comments.
No, that is not remotely the norm, for so many reasons.
I won’t list all of the links because more than one link makes the comment go to moderation. You can find these links by copying and pasting the quotes. (I will post only one link to make it past the moderation gremlins.)
From the FBI
Research has found that mass shooters don’t just snap.
They spend time thinking about violence and they plan, prepare, and often share indicators before their attacks. This means there are opportunities to identify someone who is on a pathway to violence – and prevent their attack.
Lankford & Madfis
“Do Violent Mass Murderers ‘Plan’ Their Attacks?” (2018, Behavioral Sciences & the Law) — case analyses showing many attackers engage in planning and leave communications (threats, manifestos, videos) before events; authors report high rates of pre-attack communications in their sample (varies by study/sample).
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/10990798
Lankford & Madfis
“Do Violent Mass Murderers ‘Plan’ Their Attacks?” (2018, Behavioral Sciences & the Law) — case analyses showing
many attackers engage in planning and leave communications (threats, manifestos, videos) before events; authors report high rates of pre-attack communications in their sample (varies by study/sample).
I had to leave out the one link I was going to show for the previous comment. The mod system here wouldn’t accept it. So no links. Search yourself if you want to find them. All of these comments are based on actual research (not feelz).
Silver & Simons (FBI BAU)
“Making Prevention a Reality: Identifying, Assessing, and Managing the Threat of Targeted Violence” (U.S. Secret Service / FBI synthesis) — synthesis finding: in most targeted violence cases, others observed concerning behaviors beforehand; many subjects made direct or indirect threats.
Cornell & Sheras; Fein et al.
Studies of workplace and school violence (various empirical reviews) — multi-study reviews find roughly 60–80% of attackers display warning behaviors (threats, leakage, planning indicators) observable to others prior to the act. Example synthesis: Cornell et al., studies on “leakage” in school shootings.
Some things that are “not remotely the norm”: Being struck by lightning, surviving a plane crash, getting an unexpected large inheritance from a distant relative, etc.
Oh, wow. The moderated comment was approved. That was quick and unexpected! Now, pretty please bring back the comment edit function!!
It really depends on how the Castle Doctrine laws are written in Indiana.
Some allow preventing entry, some only apply once an intruder has entered the home. (For example California is only once they have entered the home)
So many “what ifs” and so little time to properly respond to all.
It is best to not shoot if you don’t have to of course goes without saying and not sure why I just said it. When to shoot and when to not shoot is an individual’s decision at the time of the incident. Nobody really knows how they will react; they do know how they “think” they will react. The best practice is to play it safe, i.e., play it safe from being shot, harmed etc and being safe from prosecution. Staying alive with minimal damage/harm to yourself, others and property should be the goal.
I was taught mever to fire unless you could see what you were shooting at.
“Never” is a very strong term (constructing cases where it would make sense is not all that hard), but as the author said about shooting through doors more generally, “The circumstances in which that’s a legally justified action carried out by a reasonable, prudent person are incredibly narrow.”
Know your target and what’s beyond it.
Someone should tell Lon Horiuchi…{=-{<
Maybe the guy could hire Mr. Biden as an expert witness for the defense; and, get the trial moved to Wash. DC, or NYNY.
Forty year retired airline pilot here. Sorta chilling to consider the dozens of times the front desk mistakenly gave me a key to an occupied room I slammed open the door against the chain or stop…often in the middle of the night. Just have to SMH at anyone who would shoot through a door unless being shot at.
Dogmatism, black-and-white thinking, lack of nuance, ignorance… Call it what you like, but this hard-headed thinking is just wrong. Follow the safety rules, and you’ll be fine.
We have this rule that goes something like, “Know your target and what’s beyond it.” That means you can shoot through a door or any other barrier, as long as you understand who or what your target is and what lies beyond it. The idea that shooting through a barrier is an absolute “no” is an extremely ignorant take.
A threat doesn’t have to be shooting at you to be considered a threat. If you’re blindly shooting at someone making some noise at your door, then you’re breaking accepted safety and engagement rules. Nuance, people!
Dude,
I would add that the whole concept of “wait until he shoots at you” is pretty ignorant – why give the criminal the first shot? Be sure you are actually in ‘imminent danger of death or severe injury’, but that doesn’t mean let them have the first shot.
I’m a retired prosecutor in Kentucky. Kentucky also has a “Castle Doctrine” statute that provides a defense to a person using deadly physical force in defense of their residence or vehicle.
Under the facts provided I would not have hesitated to charge the homeowner with some degree of homicide. In fact, I think it would have been a grave injustice had this homeowner not been charged. Without actual physical entry into one’s home or vehicle, a shooter should not expect to be able to claim that they have acted in lawful self defense. Every gun owner must be aware of the serious responsibility that accompanies gun ownership and clearly understand the circumstances in which they may use their firearm in self defense.
There have been far too many cases in the news where people have fired through a door or fired upon people in their yards. Responsible gun owners should speak out against those who use their firearms in this manner.
The problem isn’t that he shot through the door. The problem is that he had no idea who he was shooting at, and he had no way of knowing that the person on the other side of the door was a threat. Yes, he should be charged. Yes, he was an idiot. Using this as an example to say that you can never shoot through a barrier is likewise idiotic.
Long clickbait article. TLDR: follow the basic gun safety rules and common sense.
Just guessing…. as apposed to just saying…
If the defense can get admitted into evidence that the couple thought the door was stuck and the husband admits he was trying to force the door to open AND assuming the defendant has a very normal record of middle class living… the defendant will take a plea deal. Minimal time or probation.
It is NOT a case of someone strange knocking on a door with a pizza in their hand. It is also not a case of a deranged lunatic on meth or abusive ex-husband kicking in the front door. A homeowner was asleep when someone tried to force their way into his home. It’s absolutely in the middle. He shouldn’t have fired the shot but couldn’t have known about the danger.