I was listening to NPR yesterday and the host asked the guest, who is the head of MA’s chapter of the ACLU, what would happen legally if someone who was grabbed by ICE thought they were being kidnapped (i.e. bc they’re masked, plainclothes, and don’t identify themselves) and shot at an agent in self defense. An interesting question that I’m sure a lot of people have about this issue.
The guest laughed and said that she’d been considering getting her gun license and that she decided not to because her son had told her “Mom, if the militia surrounds our house, I don’t think you’re going to shoot your way out.” Then, she dismissed the question by simply saying that a claim of self defense would be litigated according to law/precedent, i.e. nothing special about ICE’s tactics, and it would be stupid to ever assume that anyone harming you isn’t a covert government agent.
I am so incredibly annoyed with the attitude she represents. It seems to treat guns as somehow magical objects that humans are incable of controlling and sort of corrupting talismans of a secular Satanic cult. The whole thought pattern, the “out of the mouths of babes” lesson viz. her son, the belief that somehow it’s better to have all fascists know you’re openly compliant rather that deter them from operating with impunity. This whole thing: it just really makes me think that we on the left have let our high opinion of our alleged intelligence and sophistication lead us into the sheepfold. We are comfortable only when we are vulnerable to harm and peremptorily aggrieved and oppressed, apparently.
— PhillyHasItAll in So f-ing tired of the the whole “guns won’t save you from fascism, so don’t get one” canard
[h/t Rob Romano]
The “highly educated” succumb easier to menticide. A feature of decades of habituated reward response within their bubble.
Well, a group of h0 hom0 sez u als did show up with AR15s. To protect pedofiles with children who attended their drag shows. In Texas.
I’m glad the g. a. y s “came out of the closet” to protect children molesters.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
Democrats do love their child groomers and pedos.
In the ‘didn’t happen’ department – Fake reasons by fake news: Journalist Suffers PTSD After Butler Assassination Attempt… From the Crowd?
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MacFarlane claimed that right after the shots were fired, before anyone even knew if the President was alive, people turned to the press and said it was their fault. That they’d be the reason this happened…
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[context: he is referencing the press box area where the press was covering the event. he is claiming when Trump was shot that the crowd instead of, ya know being concerned about the president or going to cover, took all this time to stare at the press with basically ‘murderous intent’ and this caused him to have PTSD – this is not true, there is no video of the event by the news media, even this guy, and no such report of such ‘murderous intent’ staring by any other journalist there, in which such happened that, as he claims “… you saw it in the eyes, the reaction of the people. They were coming for us. If he didn’t jump up with his fist, they were going to come kill us.” —- left wingers, always needing attention by pretending to be ‘victims’]
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/dmitri-bolt/2025/07/17/cbs-news-reporter-says-he-got-ptsd-from-butler-n2660539
…what would happen legally if someone who was grabbed by ICE thought they were being kidnapped (i.e. bc they’re masked, plainclothes, and don’t identify themselves) and shot at an agent in self defense.
Are these people not familiar with how LE operates? They would be dead. I didn’t read all of the comments. Did anyone bring up Malinowski?
It’s good to read through these comments every now and then so you understand how their minds work (or don’t work). Their definition of fascism is anything they don’t like.
ICE agents are wearing masks because violent leftist drones and pols are doxxing them, hoping they get attacked. How many Jan 6 protestors shot at Capitol police?
The Puppet’s handlers signed off on inviting 10 plus million illegals in. Yet, people were wondering why we had a housing crisis. Kamala’s brilliant plan was to give away free houses. That would fix the problem and not impact inflation at all. It’s like the drones can’t grasp basic concepts, like elementary school economics.
In the ‘always was and always will be a loser’ department > The Foxx and the Hogg: Poor David, His PAC-Backed Candidate Just Got Trounced by 40+ Points in AZ.
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David Hogg vowed to focus on his Leaders We Deserve PAC after getting jettisoned from his DNC Vice Chair gig. Well, it’s not paying off like he thought it would. Even with Politico’s hype, his endorsed candidate Deja Foxx got trounced in a recent special election in Arizona – she lost by more than 40 points!
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And the left wing ‘imaginary winner machine’ was in full swing too in Kamala’esque fashion …
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…Politico declared yesterday that Deja Foxx, the AOC wannabe backed by David Hogg, had a “legitimate shot to win” the Arizona special primary.
She lost by 40 points.
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https://twitchy.com/warren-squire/2025/07/17/david-hoggs-first-pac-backed-candidate-destroyed-in-arizona-special-election-n2415754