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What will I do with my Sig P320?
I’ve got several Sigs, different models, my all time favorite is the P226 and my current carry is the P365 X-Macro that I really like. The others, some are duplicates of those, and other models and among them are two Sig P320’s.
Most of them I do not fire that often, and the P226 and the P536 X-Macro put a lot of rounds down range. I never had an issue with my P320’s though. But here’s the thing, Sig will eventually need to do something if these ‘un-commanded’ discharge things are traced to an actual problem with the gun, which means a fix by Sig but it could go the other way too – in either case I’ll hang on to them and wait and see.
SIG went thru this once, a year or so after the P320 first hit the market. Not calling it a recall, they “upgraded” them by fitting a lighter (gross weight, not pull weight) trigger, as the 0G trigger was just heavy enough for its inertia to occasionally overcome the sear when the gun was dropped.
The AF M18 at issue had a light mounted and was in its holster on a table when it fired. This suggests other possibilities, e.g., malfunctioning safety, safety not engaged and debris in the holster (my uninformed lean), failure to follow SOP when removing the gun-in-holster from belted mounting plate, etc.
Testing by the FBI and a state police on theirs indicates excessive wear on the primary sear notch, but they had difficulty in getting it to fire ‘uncommanded’. The parts in the FCU in the M18/P320 are MIM (Metal Injection Molding) parts and its possible some of the parts in some M18/P320 runs may have come from 3rd party vendors. MIM is pretty strong, as strong if not stronger compared to milled or cast. So the excessive wear on the primary sear notch would have been unusual in a low round count gun but maybe see some wear in a high round count gun if the parts were done correctly with MIM but this wear seems excessive for the age and round count of the guns.
I’ve tested mine. dropped, hammered (with hard polymer block), flexed, shoved them into and drawn them from various holsters even some in which they supposedly had ‘uncommanded’ discharges, we did everything we could think of to them that would not destroy the guns, tried out all the theories, even did the FBI test thing for them …could not get them to fire ‘uncommanded’
I have a P320 X5 Legion that I will continue to take to the range and enjoy. As I don’t carry this gun, I’m not really concerned about uncommanded discharges and to be charitable and cautious, I’m not really sure that problems others are having isn’t operator error.
I am a little mystified with the Air Force incident with the Security Forces airman. The airman takes off his belt with holster on it with gun in holster and lays it on a table and it fires, that’s sortta curious because it implies hands were not on the holster or gun. When I heard about this incident I talked to a guy here locally in the Air Force, in Security Forces….. he said “the way the catm guys treat them its a wonder they work at all.’ so hes gotta carry an M4 now all the time.
catm = Combat Arms Training and Maintenance, or simply Combat Arms, are United States Air Force Security Forces personnel who train base populace on the use of small arms, oversee, maintain and repair all small arms in the U.S. Air Force inventory.
BREAKING: ATF IN BIG TROUBLE! MAJOR REGULATION CUTS INCOMING!
The DOGE team has turned their attention to use AI to help cut government regulations all across the federal government. Mark Smith Four Boxes Diner discusses.
[hmmmm…I though the ATF already had Artificial Intelligence 😂]
yes, that’s been said and its more true, but having listened to the ATF during the Biden admin there was clear evidence of them trying to fake having intelligence, especially Dettelbach, thus ‘Artificial Intelligence’.
those rugers are solid, i prefer hammers (frame safety that goes off down for me) and have no polymers. but if the market for 320s opens wide, i wouldn’t hesitate. nor would i hesitate to carry one. probably some other stuff you can drop that fire control group into…
Mass stabbing – armed citizen along with others stop and capture attacker at gun point – New Update: 11 Injured, 6 Critically in ‘Random Act’ Stabbings at MI Walmart, Lone Suspect in Custody.
Hey Everytown and the rest of you anti-gun idiots, you claim you are all about saving lives while ignoring a million or more lives attacked and injured (and some killed) every year without guns involved —so here is an incident where once again among the multi-thousands of lives saved every year by an armed citizen, and this one in yet another mass-stabbing incident where unfortunately there were injured but it got stopped by an armed citizen among what could be around a few hundred or so in the last 12 months nationwide that were stopped by an armed citizen with a firearm before anyone got injured, – so lets see you do your PR thing about saving lives for this one you lying hypocrites.
In the last 10 days (17 July 2025 – 26 July 2025) – nation wide: There were ~637,000 lives saved by Defensive Gun Use (DGU) (including brandishing) enacted by armed citizens (civilians, law enforcement, armed security). This number includes all categories of criminal attack/crime defense (i.e. assault, rape, robbery, attempted murder, home invasion, mass-injury/death by shooting or knifing or fire, domestic assault/abuse, etc… – prevented or stopped). Of the DGU’s ~15% were by law enforcement, ~8% were by armed security, the remainder (~77%) by ordinary armed citizen ‘civilians’. (based upon an aggregate of: police reporting in 32 states, media reports, and pre/post-reporting through the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) program – number arrived at after 33% of total reports subtracted to account for unverified in aggregate).
Still working on weeding out the ones where the criminal attack/crime perpetrator used a firearm, but so far it looks like about ~1% used a firearm and the rest were with other ‘weapons’ (including hands/feet – i.e. strangling/kicking – and common items such as scissors, kitchen knives, gardening tools, blunt objects such as pipe or crowbar or wood board or rocks/bricks, and domestic partner violence seems to trend more towards use of hands and burning and cutting). Although some perpetrators were caught and arrested (~1%) and some killed (less than 0.2%) and some wounded (less than 1%) most fled – so still don’t know how many perpetrators overall were actually caught and arrested or killed or wounded yet as that data comes later in my wife contract research and this contract cycle only started on 15 July so its still early. Also includes left-wing, including trans/LGBTQ, violence incidents (including the so called ‘political violence’ which is just violence with a special name to pretend its unique), against anyone including law enforcement (and around 2% of those left-wing ‘political violence’ attacks were against other individuals not law enforcement, and about 2% were trans/LGBTQ attacks on other individuals that were their ‘sexual partners’ and about 2% were trans attacks on other individuals who supposedly ‘misgendered’ them), and around 68% of the remaining attackers were gang affiliated.
“The Founding Fathers intended that, in America, no one would have a title and no one would be above the law. Too often in modern times, that no longer seems true of our country. But Donald Trump is starting to call for a change to the double standard of justice.
Reviewing potentially illegal payouts from the Democratic Party and apparent bookkeeping errors, Donald Trump understandably wants to get to the bottom of the allegations and wants to see the former vice president in court over them.
If you or I committed a federal immigration felony, received massive amounts of money from foreign hostile governments, engaged in money-laundering, committed classified documents felonies, fabricated evidence against a rival, or committed other serious crimes, we would almost certainly be going to jail. But if you have a title like vice president or congressman or governor now, it seems as if you have the ‘get out of jail free’ card. That is terribly dangerous. We quite simply cannot have a Republic if there is one set of laws for ordinary citizens and a totally different set of standards for rich and powerful people. Trump is at least right to recognize the underlying problem here.
Trump posted on Truth Social Saturday, ‘I’m looking at the large amount of money owed by the Democrats, after the Presidential Election, and the fact that they admit to paying, probably illegally, Eleven Million Dollars to singer Beyoncé for an ENDORSEMENT (she never sang, not one note, and left the stage to a booing and angry audience!), Three Million Dollars for ‘expenses,’ to Oprah, Six Hundred Thousand Dollars to very low rated TV ‘anchor,’ Al Sharpton (a total lightweight!), and others to be named for doing, absolutely NOTHING! These ridiculous fees were incorrectly stated in the books and records.’
…”
What will I do with my Sig P320?
I’ve got several Sigs, different models, my all time favorite is the P226 and my current carry is the P365 X-Macro that I really like. The others, some are duplicates of those, and other models and among them are two Sig P320’s.
Most of them I do not fire that often, and the P226 and the P536 X-Macro put a lot of rounds down range. I never had an issue with my P320’s though. But here’s the thing, Sig will eventually need to do something if these ‘un-commanded’ discharge things are traced to an actual problem with the gun, which means a fix by Sig but it could go the other way too – in either case I’ll hang on to them and wait and see.
SIG went thru this once, a year or so after the P320 first hit the market. Not calling it a recall, they “upgraded” them by fitting a lighter (gross weight, not pull weight) trigger, as the 0G trigger was just heavy enough for its inertia to occasionally overcome the sear when the gun was dropped.
The AF M18 at issue had a light mounted and was in its holster on a table when it fired. This suggests other possibilities, e.g., malfunctioning safety, safety not engaged and debris in the holster (my uninformed lean), failure to follow SOP when removing the gun-in-holster from belted mounting plate, etc.
Testing by the FBI and a state police on theirs indicates excessive wear on the primary sear notch, but they had difficulty in getting it to fire ‘uncommanded’. The parts in the FCU in the M18/P320 are MIM (Metal Injection Molding) parts and its possible some of the parts in some M18/P320 runs may have come from 3rd party vendors. MIM is pretty strong, as strong if not stronger compared to milled or cast. So the excessive wear on the primary sear notch would have been unusual in a low round count gun but maybe see some wear in a high round count gun if the parts were done correctly with MIM but this wear seems excessive for the age and round count of the guns.
Anyway, don’t know. Gotta wait and see.
Yes, Sig upgraded one of mine and the other didn’t need it.
Try not drop or toss it.
But then, I try not to do that with any of my guns.
I’ve tested mine. dropped, hammered (with hard polymer block), flexed, shoved them into and drawn them from various holsters even some in which they supposedly had ‘uncommanded’ discharges, we did everything we could think of to them that would not destroy the guns, tried out all the theories, even did the FBI test thing for them …could not get them to fire ‘uncommanded’
I have a P320 X5 Legion that I will continue to take to the range and enjoy. As I don’t carry this gun, I’m not really concerned about uncommanded discharges and to be charitable and cautious, I’m not really sure that problems others are having isn’t operator error.
I am a little mystified with the Air Force incident with the Security Forces airman. The airman takes off his belt with holster on it with gun in holster and lays it on a table and it fires, that’s sortta curious because it implies hands were not on the holster or gun. When I heard about this incident I talked to a guy here locally in the Air Force, in Security Forces….. he said “the way the catm guys treat them its a wonder they work at all.’ so hes gotta carry an M4 now all the time.
catm = Combat Arms Training and Maintenance, or simply Combat Arms, are United States Air Force Security Forces personnel who train base populace on the use of small arms, oversee, maintain and repair all small arms in the U.S. Air Force inventory.
correction for: ‘The airman takes off his belt with holster on it with gun in holster ‘
should have been …
The airman takes holster off belt with gun in holster …
clarification for: “…that’s sortta curious because it implies hands were not on the holster or gun.”
laying it on the table possibly implies his hand was not on the gun or holster when it fired.
SIG Sues Police Academy Over P320 Ban.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sw5cwXExkg
BREAKING: ATF IN BIG TROUBLE! MAJOR REGULATION CUTS INCOMING!
The DOGE team has turned their attention to use AI to help cut government regulations all across the federal government. Mark Smith Four Boxes Diner discusses.
[hmmmm…I though the ATF already had Artificial Intelligence 😂]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM21DEb3SXU
.40 It has been said that the ATF has no intelligence.
yes, that’s been said and its more true, but having listened to the ATF during the Biden admin there was clear evidence of them trying to fake having intelligence, especially Dettelbach, thus ‘Artificial Intelligence’.
Nothing. Traded the one I had to a G48 after the 4th or 5th reported incident.
I have seen no reason to replace my Ruger p89 with its 17+1 capacity and it’s de-cocker.
I consider having a gun with a decocker to be safer than a striker fired gun.
Also my Hi Point 45 has never been recalled. And I very much enjoy shooting both of them.
those rugers are solid, i prefer hammers (frame safety that goes off down for me) and have no polymers. but if the market for 320s opens wide, i wouldn’t hesitate. nor would i hesitate to carry one. probably some other stuff you can drop that fire control group into…
***BREAKING NEWS***
There are reports this is video of a concealed carrier holding the Walmart stabbing suspect at gunpoint until police arrive :
“CAUGHT ON CAMERA: Shoppers confront suspect in Traverse City Walmart stabbing”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1woJtBGz-k
Gasp! 17 posts and one of them by ‘Geoff “I’m getting too old for this shit” PR’ – this is getting to be too much.
😉
Watch: Bystanders, Armed Citizen Confront Traverse City Walmart Mass Stabbing Suspect in Dramatic Moment.
https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2025/07/27/watch-armed-citizen-confronts-suspect-in-traverse-city-walmart-mass-stabbing-incident-in-dramatic-moment-n2192135
Mass stabbing – armed citizen along with others stop and capture attacker at gun point – New Update: 11 Injured, 6 Critically in ‘Random Act’ Stabbings at MI Walmart, Lone Suspect in Custody.
https://redstate.com/beccalower/2025/07/26/at-least-11-injured-in-multiple-stabbing-incident-at-michigan-walmart-suspect-in-custody-n2192131
Hey Everytown and the rest of you anti-gun idiots, you claim you are all about saving lives while ignoring a million or more lives attacked and injured (and some killed) every year without guns involved —so here is an incident where once again among the multi-thousands of lives saved every year by an armed citizen, and this one in yet another mass-stabbing incident where unfortunately there were injured but it got stopped by an armed citizen among what could be around a few hundred or so in the last 12 months nationwide that were stopped by an armed citizen with a firearm before anyone got injured, – so lets see you do your PR thing about saving lives for this one you lying hypocrites.
In the last 10 days (17 July 2025 – 26 July 2025) – nation wide: There were ~637,000 lives saved by Defensive Gun Use (DGU) (including brandishing) enacted by armed citizens (civilians, law enforcement, armed security). This number includes all categories of criminal attack/crime defense (i.e. assault, rape, robbery, attempted murder, home invasion, mass-injury/death by shooting or knifing or fire, domestic assault/abuse, etc… – prevented or stopped). Of the DGU’s ~15% were by law enforcement, ~8% were by armed security, the remainder (~77%) by ordinary armed citizen ‘civilians’. (based upon an aggregate of: police reporting in 32 states, media reports, and pre/post-reporting through the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) program – number arrived at after 33% of total reports subtracted to account for unverified in aggregate).
Still working on weeding out the ones where the criminal attack/crime perpetrator used a firearm, but so far it looks like about ~1% used a firearm and the rest were with other ‘weapons’ (including hands/feet – i.e. strangling/kicking – and common items such as scissors, kitchen knives, gardening tools, blunt objects such as pipe or crowbar or wood board or rocks/bricks, and domestic partner violence seems to trend more towards use of hands and burning and cutting). Although some perpetrators were caught and arrested (~1%) and some killed (less than 0.2%) and some wounded (less than 1%) most fled – so still don’t know how many perpetrators overall were actually caught and arrested or killed or wounded yet as that data comes later in my wife contract research and this contract cycle only started on 15 July so its still early. Also includes left-wing, including trans/LGBTQ, violence incidents (including the so called ‘political violence’ which is just violence with a special name to pretend its unique), against anyone including law enforcement (and around 2% of those left-wing ‘political violence’ attacks were against other individuals not law enforcement, and about 2% were trans/LGBTQ attacks on other individuals that were their ‘sexual partners’ and about 2% were trans attacks on other individuals who supposedly ‘misgendered’ them), and around 68% of the remaining attackers were gang affiliated.
Three Years Later: The Armed Citizen Who Ended a Mall Shooting in 15 Seconds and Saved Countless Lives.
https://www.usacarry.com/armed-citizen-ended-mall-shooting-15-seconds/
Forced Entry Turns Fatal: Homeowner Shoots Man Who Kicked in Front Door.
https://www.usacarry.com/forced-entry-turns-fatal-homeowner-shoots-man-who-kicked-in-front-door/
Feds Allow Agencies to Mail Guns — But Ban You? GOA Says Enough.
https://www.usacarry.com/feds-allow-agencies-to-mail-guns-but-ban-you-goa-says-enough/
Concealed Carry Expanded: Wyoming Officially Ends Most Gun-Free Zones.
https://www.usacarry.com/concealed-carry-expanded-wyoming-officially-ends-most-gun-free-zones/
Trump Urges Prosecution of Kamala Harris.
“The Founding Fathers intended that, in America, no one would have a title and no one would be above the law. Too often in modern times, that no longer seems true of our country. But Donald Trump is starting to call for a change to the double standard of justice.
Reviewing potentially illegal payouts from the Democratic Party and apparent bookkeeping errors, Donald Trump understandably wants to get to the bottom of the allegations and wants to see the former vice president in court over them.
If you or I committed a federal immigration felony, received massive amounts of money from foreign hostile governments, engaged in money-laundering, committed classified documents felonies, fabricated evidence against a rival, or committed other serious crimes, we would almost certainly be going to jail. But if you have a title like vice president or congressman or governor now, it seems as if you have the ‘get out of jail free’ card. That is terribly dangerous. We quite simply cannot have a Republic if there is one set of laws for ordinary citizens and a totally different set of standards for rich and powerful people. Trump is at least right to recognize the underlying problem here.
Trump posted on Truth Social Saturday, ‘I’m looking at the large amount of money owed by the Democrats, after the Presidential Election, and the fact that they admit to paying, probably illegally, Eleven Million Dollars to singer Beyoncé for an ENDORSEMENT (she never sang, not one note, and left the stage to a booing and angry audience!), Three Million Dollars for ‘expenses,’ to Oprah, Six Hundred Thousand Dollars to very low rated TV ‘anchor,’ Al Sharpton (a total lightweight!), and others to be named for doing, absolutely NOTHING! These ridiculous fees were incorrectly stated in the books and records.’
…”
https://pjmedia.com/catherinesalgado/2025/07/27/trump-calls-to-prosecute-kamala-n4942138
when the prices crash I”m standing by to buy one.